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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:30 am 
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How can this dev build work with Nighlty?

I get the message that its incompatible!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:35 am 
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gordito_gr wrote:
How can this dev build work with Nighlty?

I get the message that its incompatible!

If you install Addon Compatibility Reporter, it will add the needed preferences to allow TMP to be enabled in Nightly.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:54 pm 
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...or if you dont want to add another extension you can add this setting thru the about:config:

extensions.checkCompatibility.nightly
set it to false

This will not guarantee the addons to work, but will by pass the numeric check and all you to try them. There is a very very high hit ratio of successes. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:30 pm 
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Not sure what's going on but all of a sudden all links open in the same tab for me even though it's set to open all links in new tab. This worked just a few hours ago, then Greasemonkey updated and now it doesn't work? Waaay too odd.
Using Fx7 beta - 20100101 Firefox/7.0

EDIT: definitely GM latest nightly. Going back to the previous version.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:03 pm 
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makondo wrote:
Not sure what's going on but all of a sudden all links open in the same tab for me even though it's set to open all links in new tab. This worked just a few hours ago, then Greasemonkey updated and now it doesn't work? Waaay too odd.
Using Fx7 beta - 20100101 Firefox/7.0

EDIT: definitely GM latest nightly. Going back to the previous version.
Thanks for the info! i was having this problem too, downgrading to [Greasemonkey-2011.08.20.nightly.xpi] fixed the issue.

Regards, Karl.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:32 pm 
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You're welcome! I think, waiting a couple of days for another GM nightly and see if it's fixed. I wanted to report issue there but i don't want to login just for that. We'll see.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:23 am 
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I got fed up with all the problems GM was causing up and down the Ff versions so I swapped for Scriptish.

Problems solved!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:33 am 
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I had a bad glitch with Scriptish and went back to GM. With that 'rapid' release now, we should expect things to break more often. Not life threatening though.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:59 pm 
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@makondo

I've returned
Code:
false
all the time in TMPs contentLinks.js and this seems to resolve the middle clicking and Ctrl+click issues with GM HEAD and TMP release.

Code:
function TMP_isGreasemonkeyScript(event, target) {
  if (event.button == 2)
    return false;

  if ("GM_BrowserUI" in window && GM_getEnabled()) {
    var url = target.getAttribute("href");
    if (url && url.match(/\.user\.js(\?|$)/i))
      return false; // return true;
  }

  return false;
}

I believe that this test is no longer necessary in the current GM HEAD and nightly builds from Anthony. Please confirm.

Thanks,
- Marti -

See also greasemonkey#1406

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Thanks, Marti, i hope onemen will look into it.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:31 pm 
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Oneman, Just giving you a heads up the new 'Load Tabs on Demand' feature isn't working in all situations, which you may already be aware of this problem.

Using latest 2011/08/25 Win32 Aurora 8.0a2 and Win32 Nightly 9.0a1 using either the latest official TMP Dev build 0.3.8.6pre.110429a or unofficial TMP Dev build 0.3.8.6pre110806a.

This about:config pref was removed:
browser.sessionstore.max_concurrent_tabs; set to 0.

Replaced with Options UI setting and with about:config pref:
browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand; set to true.

The new about:config pref: browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand; when set to true, in combination with Options setting 'show windows and tab from last time'.(Below 'Works or Doesn't Work' is referring to new 'Load Tabs on Demand' feature.)

By default on Aurora 8.0a2 and Nightly 9.0a1 with no TMP:
Works=browser session restored at start up with App tabs only
Works=browser session restored at start up with only Tabs(not pinned)
Works=browser session restored at start up with both App tabs and Tabs when either is in focus.

Aurora 8.0a2 and Nightly 9.0a1 with TMP with TMP Session Manager disabled:
Works=Same has default above which is expected.

Aurora 8.0a2 and Nightly 9.0a1 with TMP with TMP Session Manager enabled using TMP setting to Restore Last Session at start up:
Doesn't Work=browser session restored at start up with App tabs only
Doesn't Work=browser session restored at start up with only Tabs(not pinned)
Doesn't Work=browser session restored at start up with both App tabs and Tabs when either is in focus.

I have had to disabled TMP Session Manager and switched to using:
https://addons.mozilla.org/z/firefox/addon/session-manager/versions/0.7.7pre20110824:

Aurora 8.0a2 and Nightly 9.0a1 with TMP with [Ext] Session Manager 0.7.7pre20110824 enabled Using setting to Load Previous Session at start up:
Works=browser session restored at start up with App tabs only
Works=browser session restored at start up with only Tabs(not pinned)
Works=browser session restored at start up with both App tabs and Tabs when either is in focus.

Note: For those who want to test to confirm the problem make sure you exit the browser by using the title bar's caption [X] Close button and then re launch the browser, rather than using some kind of browser restart [Extension].


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:31 am 
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TMP Session Manager don't use Load on Demand, its Firefox's sessionStore feature.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:36 am 
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Question: Why does TMP provide a Session Manager in the first place? There are plenty of good Session Managers out there and I think this is not the task of TMP.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:19 am 
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Segaja wrote:
Question: Why does TMP provide a Session Manager in the first place? There are plenty of good Session Managers out there and I think this is not the task of TMP.

I would say for completeness of offered features and for users who prefer to keep the number of installed addons to a minimum.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:57 am 
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I would take more addons if each of them is small and does the stuff it is suppose to do as some large addon that tries to do everything.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:08 am 
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Segaja wrote:
I would take more addons if each of them is small and does the stuff it is suppose to do as some large addon that tries to do everything.

To each his or her own. I'm sure some people prefer having a fewer number of addons as it is easier for them to keep track of them in their heads. However, for myself, because I have 3 computers with Firefox, Aurora and Nightly--all with the same addons installed--I keep a spreadsheet so I can more easily find the one browser/profile that has an out-of-date addon version.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:57 am 
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Well, it was a mistake. Gary and onemen gave in to requests. This is one request they should've said 'no!' to but they didn't. Then Session Manager came along and it became painfully obvious - a big mistake. It's bloat, it doesn't really do much (especially comparably to SM) and it doesn't belong to a tab manipulating ext. anyway. The argument 'it has to do with tabs' is a poor one 'cause just about everything in Fx has to do with tabs.
I said it then, i said it many times and i will say it again - TMP is an extension, not a browser and should stay that way. Unfortunately, it's too late now (unless onemen would want to divide them which i'm pretty sure he won't). So, now many of us stuck with TMP and SM capable of doing the same thing but SM does it a lot more effectively.
But that's the story of TMP, as for 'many small addons', i use TMP because it has what i need in one package and i don't have to worry about bugs, updates, dropped support, etc. It's all here, in one place. And very well supported (thanks onemen!).

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:56 pm 
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onemen wrote:
TMP Session Manager don't use Load on Demand, its Firefox's sessionStore feature.

I understand that it's Fx feature that has now been given a new Options UI and new about:config pref, all I was stating is that prior to the change, TMP would adhere to the about:config pref:
browser.sessionstore.max_concurrent_tabs; when set to 0, which is equal to the new about:config pref:
browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand; when set to true, which currently TMP just simply ignores.

The latest [ext] Session Manager 0.7.7pre20110826 has been updated to adhere to either about:config pref settings above when you happen to be using Fx 6 and Fx 7.0b2 or Aurora 8.0a2 and Nightly 9.0a1. This is the only reason I'm evening using [Ext] Session Manager and once TMP is updated and does the same I will no longer need [Ext] Session Manager.

Oneman, I just hope you make the same decision to make TMP Session Manager adhere to the new about:config pref above has Morac did with [Ext] Session Manager.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:45 am 
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makondo wrote:
Well, it was a mistake. Gary and onemen gave in to requests. This is one request they should've said 'no!' to but they didn't. Then Session Manager came along and it became painfully obvious - a big mistake. It's bloat, it doesn't really do much (especially comparably to SM) and it doesn't belong to a tab manipulating ext. anyway. The argument 'it has to do with tabs' is a poor one 'cause just about everything in Fx has to do with tabs.
I said it then, i said it many times and i will say it again - TMP is an extension, not a browser and should stay that way. Unfortunately, it's too late now (unless onemen would want to divide them which i'm pretty sure he won't). So, now many of us stuck with TMP and SM capable of doing the same thing but SM does it a lot more effectively.
But that's the story of TMP, as for 'many small addons', i use TMP because it has what i need in one package and i don't have to worry about bugs, updates, dropped support, etc. It's all here, in one place. And very well supported (thanks onemen!).

I agree with your opinion.
The other option would be to simply remove the session restore stuff from TMP and tell people to move to SM or other addons that do this stuff.

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incompatible with latest nightlies using noscript and tmp. tried segaja's and wildcatray's latest build. don't know it this is a tmp or nosript-bug. js-heavy pages are not correctly loaded. deactivating one of those -> works fine.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:9.0a1) Gecko/20110826 Firefox/9.0a1
NoScript 2.1.2.6
edit : got new ns version,nothing changed..
v 2.1.2.7rc3


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